Jaxine Caulie
Goku
Dojo Blademaster
Bitch, your moma bought you Megablocks instead of Legos.
Posts: 765
Base: 155,126
Overdrive: 465,378
SSJ: 1,861,512
Zeni: 4,832
Items: Cookie, Heavy Weights, Simulator 2.0, Gravity Chamber (x100), Scouter, Muramasa, Senzu Bean, Space Pod
Profile Link: http://dragonballawakening.proboards.com/thread/1747/jaxine-caulie-mulligan-zeke-necross
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Post by Jaxine Caulie on Aug 19, 2015 19:28:15 GMT -5
Consider my last Solo, Black Sun Rising. The first post date of July 5th. The final edit of August 4th. A month of work... over 6,000 words (6,140 or so to be more accurate) in 4 posts. Consider also I'm stuck in the afterlife with no players and one NPC that posts quite slow (witch is why Brandon left). Gaining PL and RP in general isn't exactly going to be easy.
My gain was 3,400pl. In limbo, a month of writing, 6,000+ words, with plans of 4 more chapters.
Anyone reading this, tell me. Does this seem fair? Does it worth it? Solos? Afterlife? Do we have to all run from the powerful characters to avoid being stuck in Limbo, getting low gains on anything we do write?
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Post by Man on Aug 19, 2015 19:39:27 GMT -5
It depends on what your intent is. If your goal is to gain PL, then Solos are worth it if used properly. Again, for PL purposes, I wouldn't make a solo unless I had access to Heavy Weights, Gravity, and a Sim. If you don't have access to these 3 things, then it be best to find someone who does or farm for zeni until you have it yourself.
Group threads are always the best option for anything, but they can be quite slow as we are very familiar with this. Solos allow for faster PL gain, although it requires more work on your part since you have to come up with an entire story on your own. It can be a very taxing, especially if you're constantly making solos.
As for the afterlife, I thought admins were opening NPC positions to willing players? xP
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Queen Akassa Hattori
Administrator
Queen of the Imperial Saiyan Legion
Long live the Queen.
Posts: 1,151
Base: 209,817
True Power: 419,634
LSSJ: 4,196,340
Zeni: 1,049
Items: Gravity Chamber (100x), Scouter, Senzu Bean ,Senzu Pouch, Deluxe Spaceship, Simulator 2.0
Ally: General Toa: PL - 104,909 True Power: 209,817 Oozaru: 524,542
Ally 2: Raska: PL - 104,909 - Nether State:209,817 - Void State: 1,258,902
Profile Link: Akassa Hattori
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Post by Queen Akassa Hattori on Aug 19, 2015 19:59:50 GMT -5
King Snake is member controlled, not staff. If he hasn't posted try pming him.
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Post by Frigid on Aug 19, 2015 20:08:19 GMT -5
I won't go into depth in this, but I agree with what Zero said solos for pl are best if you have all the gear.
However, I am still somewhat upset with the way zeni is gained... I feel about the same as Zeke, in terms of the gains being rediculously low. Now, I am not saying they need risen or anything, just saying I wish there was an way to make it a little easier... No matter what the solos is for, for me personally, it is so Damn hard to write up anything, but especially for zeni, because what the he'll is the point of using up all your fighting ideas to get zeni, if fighting is best suited for pl gains?
TL;DR I agree solos are only good with the gear.
Zeni is hard a he'll to gain. We should have a list of jobs or something we could do to make gains easier.
P.S. sorry if this came out like gibberish, I just got home from a 12 hour work day and haven't eaten all day.
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Post by Ethan Snow on Aug 19, 2015 20:58:54 GMT -5
Everyone already knows my position on solo posting but those results do seem a little on the craptacular side. Were you no utilizing your equipment? With Ethan, I apply his weights when ever possible and they were the first thing I worked for, for maximum gain as quickly as possible.
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Post by Man on Aug 19, 2015 21:10:22 GMT -5
I haven't read your thread "Black Sun Rising" but it appears to me that the thread was meant to develop Zeke's storyline and perhaps character. The problem with that is that you can't use a simulator or gravity thread for a character developing event. To use gravity, you need to be in an enclosed room. To use a simulator, it implies the events are not really taking place -negating your plot developing device. If you somehow used Sim and gravity, I assure you that you would have gained nearly 6k PL if that is indeed your wordcount.
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Queen Akassa Hattori
Administrator
Queen of the Imperial Saiyan Legion
Long live the Queen.
Posts: 1,151
Base: 209,817
True Power: 419,634
LSSJ: 4,196,340
Zeni: 1,049
Items: Gravity Chamber (100x), Scouter, Senzu Bean ,Senzu Pouch, Deluxe Spaceship, Simulator 2.0
Ally: General Toa: PL - 104,909 True Power: 209,817 Oozaru: 524,542
Ally 2: Raska: PL - 104,909 - Nether State:209,817 - Void State: 1,258,902
Profile Link: Akassa Hattori
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Post by Queen Akassa Hattori on Aug 19, 2015 21:13:52 GMT -5
On the note of Zeni gains. Frigid's suggested gambling arena will be active soon as well as "missions" for monarchs and others. These will result in more zeni gains. All this will be detailed in the upcoming update.
As for doing solos, without the gear their PL reward is a bit lackluster as solos are not designed for huge gains. Roleplaying with others is the best way to go overall, but the right equipment makes the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 22:23:40 GMT -5
I feel as though solos are not worth it at times. Goku, for example, used training weights but with them never got stronger then Raditz PL of 1200 which is leagues below new starting PLs. At the same time, he somehow managed to do seven days of training in a gravity training chamber and went from like being able to use 5000 PL to being able to use 180,000 PL via the weakest form of the Kaio-Ken. He had it mostly suppressed at this time which actually deflected from his true PL of 60,000 but it understandably seems annoying that to make big gains one needs all this equipment. When in fact some of it does not seem to help as much as one would hope in the series.
In the case, of Zeke, if his story is as in-depth as I'm sure it is it feels kind of sad he only got half of what he wrote. It means that the grading system somehow cuts in half the gains a person writes for. I'm not saying grading should be word for word counting (I actually don't like that much at all now that I've experienced it) but an appropriate value reflecting all writing abilities is hopefully more towards what you're leaning for.
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Toshio Katsuo
Yamcha
Posts: 24
Base: 26,000
x2: 52,000
Inner-Strength: 104,000
Zeni: 200
Items: Senzu Bean
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Post by Toshio Katsuo on Aug 20, 2015 16:06:20 GMT -5
With how I see it he was being penalized for not having a gravity, sim, and weights which I don't think should be the case. You should not be penalized for not having something just because it is a Solo. 6k worth of words is still 6k. I don't think the quality was THAT bad(Not saying the quality was bad at all) to have have so little in PL gain. The heavy weights,sim, gravity and group threads should have modifiers that Improve basic gains not be the end all be all. If someone does not have it they should not basically be hurt by it if they put in extra work compared to a lesser Solo. 6k words is a lot and 3k Pl just seems so small. No, Word Count should not be everything but it should account for quit a bit. I think his PL gain should have at least been 5k, Solo or not. Again, being penalized for doing a Solo and NOT using UPGRADES I think really really sucks and group threads can move quite slow as we have seen so doing a Solo should be able to help balance it out a little. It's like..This is a MMO and it feels like it's Pay To Win now and you have to work super super super super hard to see the modest or even of gains
As for zeni gains, I think it's always said that you get more gains when you actually do something to gain that Zeni in the RP and I think Zeni gains should be less than PL gains simply because you can eventually buy everything if you save up and what not but with Pl there really is no 'limit'. As far as list of Jobs..you as the writer can make up your own jobs right? I suppose something like from Naruto Rps like Ranked missions to gain a certain amount of zeni would be nice but also have an option to like..make your own jobs and submit them for approval.
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Conri Lane
Goku
Not everyone can obey the rules. It's good to have the odd maverick around.
Posts: 622
Base: 203,560
Frenzy: 402,092
Oozaru: 1,005,230
SSJ: 2,211,506
ASSJ: 2,814,644
USSJ: 3,216,736
FPSSJ: 3,618,828
Zeni: 2,538
Items: Spaceship w/ x100 Gravity Chamber & Simulator 2.0, Heavy Weights, Nitrous Fuel
Ally: Arcadia - Base: 100,523 x2: 201,046
Profile Link: Conri Lane
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Post by Conri Lane on Aug 20, 2015 16:38:30 GMT -5
I don't think these is a set way for the grading to occur because my most recent training thread was about 453 words, but I got a pl of 456. So, it's not like it's a set in stone type of deal for the amount you'll receive for it.
I'm sure there are multiple things being considered while grading, and not sure about others but I've got no issues with Shizukesa's posting, it's generally within 2-3 days for me. I'm not really that much in a rush for things so it works, and sometimes it is faster as well, depends on whoever is controlling her and their schedule.
Could the grading system use revamping to adjust to the higher base pls? Sure, but does that mean the current system is complete junk/unfair? no. It's about a balance of words, quality, and other variables including weights, gravity, sim(or other people).
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Queen Akassa Hattori
Administrator
Queen of the Imperial Saiyan Legion
Long live the Queen.
Posts: 1,151
Base: 209,817
True Power: 419,634
LSSJ: 4,196,340
Zeni: 1,049
Items: Gravity Chamber (100x), Scouter, Senzu Bean ,Senzu Pouch, Deluxe Spaceship, Simulator 2.0
Ally: General Toa: PL - 104,909 True Power: 209,817 Oozaru: 524,542
Ally 2: Raska: PL - 104,909 - Nether State:209,817 - Void State: 1,258,902
Profile Link: Akassa Hattori
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Post by Queen Akassa Hattori on Aug 20, 2015 22:13:22 GMT -5
Let me try and clear this up. No one is getting penalized for not having equipment. The items from the item shop are meant to modify the gains you get. Those mechanics are set in place to help you gain PL if you use them. Above all the point of posting is to further you characters story and gain PL/zeni along the way. By purchasing items and using them you can gain more PL from your work, but just because a PL reward was lower than you might expect doesn't mean it was a bad post. Below is a thread I wrote way back when. In terms of length it is about 2,500 words. If you look at the PL awarded compared to what Zeke got for his thread, the number is comparable. If you want to look at it in terms of word count and quality, I believe the quality is the similar so let’s just look at words. (There is more to grading than this, but I am keeping it simple to make the point in terms of length.) Zeke 5,995 words, 3400 PL = 57% of the word count translated to PL Akassa 2500 words, 1500 PL = 60% of the word count translated to PL dragonballawakening.proboards.com/thread/185/batkin-jurino
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Post by Lord Zasham on Aug 23, 2015 10:31:21 GMT -5
Anyone reading this, tell me. Does this seem fair? Does it worth it? Solos? Afterlife? Do we have to all run from the powerful characters to avoid being stuck in Limbo, getting low gains on anything we do write? Conri, Akassa, Ninjin (and even you since I believe you are the sixth most powerful PC) all went through the same system to get where they are at. The same system as it has been since the beginning. A system which affects everyone equally. Though none of them got an unlock, like you did.
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Zilo
Yamcha
Posts: 11
Base: 29,500
x2: 59,000
Oozaru: 147,500
Zeni: 2,317
Items: Senzu Bean
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Post by Zilo on Aug 23, 2015 10:48:36 GMT -5
Honestly, Solo's really aren't meant to get you stronger, in fact there's very little you can do with it. Unless you make a series of days, or events and block them off one by one. In over all, I do believe that solo post have more to do with character development and should be seen as much. Yeah you can use certain things in solo's to get stronger, that's fine and all, but when it comes down to it, you should really use Solo post to flesh out the character more. To display their personality, and how they adjust to a current setting, and you make up your own scenario. Now as for group topics, I mean you have to take into consideration, how others roleplay, you have more refined detail within your post, which requires more concentration, and patience. But it does make it go by quicker when you read others post to your own :3
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Jaxine Caulie
Goku
Dojo Blademaster
Bitch, your moma bought you Megablocks instead of Legos.
Posts: 765
Base: 155,126
Overdrive: 465,378
SSJ: 1,861,512
Zeni: 4,832
Items: Cookie, Heavy Weights, Simulator 2.0, Gravity Chamber (x100), Scouter, Muramasa, Senzu Bean, Space Pod
Profile Link: http://dragonballawakening.proboards.com/thread/1747/jaxine-caulie-mulligan-zeke-necross
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Post by Jaxine Caulie on Aug 26, 2015 18:40:47 GMT -5
I guess my question is answered. Are solo's worth it? Yes and no. They are worth it for explaining story and rounding a character. A training thread taking place under simulation and gravity are for power level. My solo thread was not worth the effort. It could have been done, explaining the whole story shorter. To take the combat and make it simulated would have made a great training thread. If I had left it as is and requested Zeni, it likely would grant plenty of it. In the end, it comes down to putting the right effort into the right kind of thread.
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