Queen Akassa Hattori
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Post by Queen Akassa Hattori on Nov 26, 2013 20:16:03 GMT -5
There has been an idea brought up with the admins concerning cybernetic or artificial limbs. We are currently working on a way in which if a player loses say an arm or leg they can acquire a replacement for I through the use of technology. Now he question has arisen what happens if the character possess a transformation that alters their size. For simplicity I will use Saiyans. If a Saiyan has a cybernetic leg and transforms into Oozaru what happens? Does he become a one legged monkey or does the leg adjust and adapt with the "increased flow of Ki?" Now I realize this second option is a bit unrealistic, but lets face it so is all of DBZ. Now what do you think should the limbs be allowed to change size or not? If you vote no please suggest how you feel it should be handled if one with an artificial limb does transform. We want your input!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 20:34:31 GMT -5
Cybernetic limbs do not have to change and grow with a character through the basis of ki. Ki is a person's energy, so it would be weird to say artificial limbs grew bigger with a person based on flowing their ki through the limb. The limbs should be connected to their biological make up and thus be influenced by their biological makeup.
For example, if a Saiyan transformed into an Oozaru, the limb would grow to Oozaru size because the limb had been grafted to work with the Saiyan's DNA and was modified to change with it. So a mechanical arm could become giant sized due to their genetic makeup.
I feel like I'm repeating myself, so perhaps I should add another path to this. Perhaps, characters who lose limbs and decide to get artificial ones should actually have limited transformations. The primary reason is because when Freiza gets beaten he returns as a mechanical version of his former self. Sadly, no thanks to Trunks, we do not get to see what he was going to be like after this. Instead, we have to put the basis for full mechanical transformations on his brother Cooler in terms of how they could work. Cooler though was far stronger than his brother and had an entire mechanical planet eating machine to work with in order to achieve transformations and a ridiculous number of clones of himself.
So, in this matter, I really do not know what to say. Although, I will likely say yes to that because I loved watching Cooler get beat up and Frieza in his mechanical form probably would have been cool in an actual fight. I hate though when manga artists and writers kill their characters though and then bring them back for a brief time. It's just pointless to have them return unless they're not going to be a bigger threat like Cooler was. So, this may actually make my opinion on the matter seem rather iffy because mechanical limbs could clearly be seen as a way to cheat death in a very bad way. That way being your character will not really be themselves fully when they come back, but part machine/ part biological creature. It's definitely a tough decision.
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Post by Frigid on Nov 26, 2013 20:37:31 GMT -5
Just like Saiyan armor is engineered to stretch to he shape of an oozaru, or whatever (Zarbon), I don't see why that couldn't be the case with an artificial limb. That being said, I have to ask the question:
Could said limb actual morph/change with a trans? Say Frigid gets an arm amputated and replaced with an artifical limb. Upon changing to brute form, would the limb just grow, or could it actually morph with the huge change in Ki flow/amount pulsing through it. Could that make the arm change into, for the sake of conversation, a tank canon barrel?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 20:40:25 GMT -5
Do you mean like how Transformers change from cars to fighting robots?
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Jaxine Caulie
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Post by Jaxine Caulie on Nov 26, 2013 21:21:45 GMT -5
I picture an Icer with a tiny arm on one side in their second form, or an Oozaru with one little leg. Hell no, they should reside. Why is this even a vote xD Remember the charger from Left for Dead 2? That's messed up lol
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Queen Akassa Hattori
Administrator
Queen of the Imperial Saiyan Legion
Long live the Queen.
Posts: 1,151
Base: 209,817
True Power: 419,634
LSSJ: 4,196,340
Zeni: 1,049
Items: Gravity Chamber (100x), Scouter, Senzu Bean ,Senzu Pouch, Deluxe Spaceship, Simulator 2.0
Ally: General Toa: PL - 104,909 True Power: 209,817 Oozaru: 524,542
Ally 2: Raska: PL - 104,909 - Nether State:209,817 - Void State: 1,258,902
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Post by Queen Akassa Hattori on Dec 8, 2013 18:05:26 GMT -5
Well this is pretty easy then, artificial limbs will now be located in the item shop!
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Post by Man on Dec 9, 2013 16:20:50 GMT -5
Wait, why would someone want to make themselves handicap so then they have to buy something? I think you'd have to create another system to create the need and support this new item. Maybe a handicap system where the loss of limbs is an actual item/status. Players can undermine this by starting off with their characters obtaining the prosthetic limbs through the background history of their profiles. Of course, nothing can happen to a player unless he/she agrees upon it, but if its a saga thread, they could die or lose an arm without consensus. My point is, either leave the idea of mechanical limbs free of charge (since giving them a price wont really solve whether or not it can transform with the body), or make it official by giving players the status of "Lost Limb" (or whatever) and now they must get a prosthetic device or remain handicapped.
Edit: For example, as an android myself, I like to mutilate my character from time to time as an occupational hazard whenever fights get too intense. I would then just have the scientists repair him. Do I have to purchase Artificial Limbs every time I want to do that now? xP
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Queen Akassa Hattori
Administrator
Queen of the Imperial Saiyan Legion
Long live the Queen.
Posts: 1,151
Base: 209,817
True Power: 419,634
LSSJ: 4,196,340
Zeni: 1,049
Items: Gravity Chamber (100x), Scouter, Senzu Bean ,Senzu Pouch, Deluxe Spaceship, Simulator 2.0
Ally: General Toa: PL - 104,909 True Power: 209,817 Oozaru: 524,542
Ally 2: Raska: PL - 104,909 - Nether State:209,817 - Void State: 1,258,902
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Post by Queen Akassa Hattori on Dec 9, 2013 16:35:08 GMT -5
I see you point about n saga but such is the risk of a saga. As for paying for it we believe that keeps losing a limb something you don't want to do since it is not free to replace. As for chars starting with one that would be fine since if they lose it later they Will still need to pay to replace it like anyone else. The status idea is something I donr think would be needed since we trust our members to roleplay appropriately and we do watch as well so having a limb missing must be roleplayed correctly. we did this more so people can lose one if they want but not have it gone forever. Also we won't just go ripping people's arms left and right in sagas heh
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Post by Jaxine Caulie on Dec 9, 2013 16:41:03 GMT -5
Yeah, what Man says kind of makes sense. This would make Majins, Namekians and Bios have all the fun getting their limbs cut off lol.
But also, there are ways to get your limbs back without buying them. Sometimes Healing can reattach them, or in the case of an Android, Matter Manipulation would work. But that has downsides too, as we'd all flock to Namek for healing and all get matter manipulation to help eachother and ourselves.
Then another idea. An android I can see having spare parts in stock already, why would they need to buy them? A Saiyan or Human for example would be the only ones using this for the most part. I'd have to say, I'm with Man on this one, I like that you allowed it, but 1,000 Zeni each time? You do have a couple swordsmen running around, and we'd love to do more than impale people.
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Queen Akassa Hattori
Administrator
Queen of the Imperial Saiyan Legion
Long live the Queen.
Posts: 1,151
Base: 209,817
True Power: 419,634
LSSJ: 4,196,340
Zeni: 1,049
Items: Gravity Chamber (100x), Scouter, Senzu Bean ,Senzu Pouch, Deluxe Spaceship, Simulator 2.0
Ally: General Toa: PL - 104,909 True Power: 209,817 Oozaru: 524,542
Ally 2: Raska: PL - 104,909 - Nether State:209,817 - Void State: 1,258,902
Profile Link: Akassa Hattori
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Post by Queen Akassa Hattori on Dec 9, 2013 16:44:59 GMT -5
Lol well if you can justify it IC like an android repairing himself that's fine. What if a human loses one with no healer in site to reattach it? Than he can buy a fake one. As for price we could possibly lower but that would have to be discussed.
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Post by Lord Zasham on Dec 9, 2013 16:54:14 GMT -5
My thoughts...
One, Androids would be exempt from this. As their limbs are already cybernetic. The reason it would cost nothing for an android to get a new arm as opposed to a biological creature, is its a whole lot easier, and cheaper, to attach metal to metal rather than metal to a living being.
Two, I'd imagine it would be a one time fee for the limb. As in if your cybernetic limb was damaged or, comically, re-severed, you would not need to pay for it again. In the case of losing a different limb, you would, but really nobody is going to get multiple limbs hacked off.
The idea is no different than it is for saiyans who have to regrow their tail. If anything, 1000z is a whole lot easier than 2 tech slots (~10k pl depending on race) to obtain. Once they allocate the tech slots and learn tail regeneration, they can regrow their tail whenever (besides the same thread in which the lost it).
These are my opinions and do no reflect the views of the admin team as a whole.
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